{"id":3996,"date":"2013-11-14T08:03:17","date_gmt":"2013-11-14T16:03:17","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/hoshanarabbah.org\/blog\/?p=3996"},"modified":"2014-08-23T15:24:33","modified_gmt":"2014-08-23T22:24:33","slug":"conversation-between-god-and-man","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/hoshanarabbah.org\/blog\/2013\/11\/14\/conversation-between-god-and-man\/","title":{"rendered":"A Conversation Between God and Man(?!)"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><strong>Genesis 35:1, 6\u20137, 9\u201310, 15 (cp. 32:23\u201331), <i>Elohim said unto Jacob.<\/i> <\/strong>This account of the encounter between Elohim and Jacob is so matter-of-fact and is written in such a manner as to be familial, if not almost casual. There are no embellishments or hyperbole, just statement of literal fact. Again, the plain (<i>peshat<\/i>) meaning of the text seems clear: Elohim spoke with man face-to-face. This was not the only time Jacob had experienced such a divine encounter as we have previously noted in is encounter with Elohim in Genesis 32.<\/p>\n<p>It could be said that Elohim spoke to Jacob in some sort of a vision form, until we come to verse 13 and 14, which states that \u201cElohim went up from [Jacob] where he talked with him. And Jacob set up a pillar in the place where he talked with him.\u201d These verses indicate that Elohim was literally there at that place and when finished \u201cwent up from [Jacob].\u201d The word <i>place<\/i> in verse 13 is the Hebrew word <i>maqowm<\/i>, which is a \u201cperformative noun [which] represents the physical location where something is or ought to be \u2026 so it is translated <i>place, home, room<\/i> \u2026\u201d (<i>TWOT<\/i>, vol 2, p. 794). The well-respected Brown, Driver and Briggs lexicon, like <i>TWOT, <\/i>defines <i>maqowm <\/i>as a literally physical place, spot or locality (p. 879). The word <i>maqowm<\/i> is used 402 times in the <i>Tanakh<\/i> and only four times does it refer to YHVH\u2019s heavenly dwelling place (1 Kgs 8:30; 2 Chr 6:21; Hos 5:15 and Mic 1:3); all other scriptural passages where the word is used is referring to literal or figurative place on earth including Genesis 35:13. 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