{"id":298,"date":"2012-03-09T21:01:42","date_gmt":"2012-03-10T05:01:42","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/hoshanarabbah.org\/blog\/?p=298"},"modified":"2012-03-09T21:24:39","modified_gmt":"2012-03-10T05:24:39","slug":"god-of-the-old-testament","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/hoshanarabbah.org\/blog\/2012\/03\/09\/god-of-the-old-testament\/","title":{"rendered":"Who Is the God of the Old Testament: Yeshua or the Father?"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><strong>John 1:1, <em>The Word was God [Elohim].<\/em><\/strong> Is Yeshua or the Father the God (<em>Elohim<\/em>) of the Old Testament (Tanakh)?<\/p>\n<p>For many believers in Yeshua, there is confusion as to who it was in the Godhead who interacted with the Israelites in the\u00a0Tankah. Was it the Father or the Son?<\/p>\n<p>In the minds of the apostolic writers, there was no confusion about this. Yeshua, in his preincarnate state, was the One that YHVH Elohim the Father used to both create and then to interact with mankind. He was the Word of YHVH Elohim, the Father, who become flesh and dwelt among men (verse 14). This truth is easily confirmed in several passages in the Testimony of Yeshua (New Testament).<\/p>\n<p>First, Yeshua himself claims to be YHVH or the I Am of the burning bush (see John 8:58 cp. Exod 3:14). The Jews viewed Yeshua\u2019s claim as blasphemous, which is why they picked up stones to kill him (John 8:59).<\/p>\n<p>Next, Yeshua in declaring to the Jewish religious leaders that \u201cI send you prophets, wise men and scribes: some you will kill\u2026\u201d (Matt 23:34), he is claiming the rights and prerogatives of YHVH\u2014a right and role that solely belonged to YHVH in the Tanakh.<\/p>\n<p>Yeshua also declared that no man has seen the face of Elohim the Father (John 5:37). Yet in the Torah, we have several instances of men seeing YHVH (e.g., Gen 17:1; 18:1; 26:2; 48:3).\u00a0If we are to take what these scriptures say as literal, then it could not have been YHVH the Father these individuals saw,\u00a0but YHVH the Son who later become Yeshua.<\/p>\n<p>Not only that, Yeshua even goes so far as to say that the Israelites of old not only didn&#8217;t see the Father\u2019s face, but neither at anytime even saw his form nor heard his voice (John 5:37). Therefore, it becomes evident that while on Mount Sinai, Moses didn\u2019t see the backside of the Father, but of the pre-incarnate Yeshua (Exod 33:18\u201323).<\/p>\n<p>What\u2019s more, in John 14:15, Yeshua, speaking to his disciples, declares, \u201cIf you love me, keep my commandments.\u201d When Yeshua says <em>commandments<\/em> here, we know from Luke 18:20 that he has the Torah in mind. In this statement, Yeshua is actually quoting himself when he made the same statement to the children of Israel while he was delivering to them the Oracles or Torah of Elohim (Exod 20:6; Deut 11:1).<\/p>\n<p>Stephen, in agreement with John, clearly demonstrates that Yeshua was the prophesied \u201cprophet like Moses\u201d who was to come (see Deut 18:15), and who was the Angel, or more correctly, the Divine Messenger from Elohim, who gave the Torah to the Israelites (Acts 7:37\u201338).<\/p>\n<p>Paul goes on to say in enigmatic terms that Yeshua was the spiritual rock from which the Israelites drank and that followed them (1 Cor 10:4). And finally, Paul equates Yeshua, \u201cthe Word of Elohim made flesh and that dwelt among us\u201d (John 1:14) with the Written Torah that YHVH gave through Moses to the Israelites. This he does when he quotes Deuteronomy 30:11\u201314 and substitutes the word Torah for Yeshua (see Rom 10:5\u201313). 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