John 3:13, No one has ascended to heaven. Most Christians believe that when they die, they immediately go to heaven in spite of Yeshua’s clear statement in this verse. Many believers see this verse as referring to saints who died before his resurrection, but not true of those who died afterwards, even though Yeshua doesn’t say this. Therefore, they reason, this is why, according to Peter, David, who was born before Yeshua, is still resting in his grave awaiting the last days resurrection (Acts 2:29).
If what the majority Christians believe on this subject is true, then the saints of old are second class citizens and YHVH is a respecter persons (which he is not, see Acts 10:34; Rom 2:11) in that they have to wait for resurrection day and for their ultimate reward of eternal life, while saints born since Yeshua receive their glorified bodies immediately upon death.
Laying aside all the church traditions and doctrines of men, what does the Bible in the simplest and clearest terms say about the timing of the saints receiving immortality? Paul states that the resurrection of all the dead saints and their receiving immortality occurs not at the time of their physical death, but at the second coming of Yeshua at the last trumpet (1 Cor 15:51–54; 1 Thess 4:13–18 cp. Rev 11:15, 18).
In reality, men’s eternal inheritance isn’t heaven, but the New Jerusalem, which is coming down from heaven to the new earth (Rev 21:2).
YES! Agree!
Can you write about all the verses that discuss entering in heaven?
Easy. There are none. Show me a scripture that you think says we’re going to heaven when we die, and we’ll discuss it in the light of the full counsel of Elohim’s word. The closest thing you can come to is that when a person dies, his spirit returns to the Elohim who gave it. What does that really mean? No one knows for sure, so we can’t speculate. There’s nothing in the Bible says the body or soul go to heaven when you die. Sorry to pop anyone’s traditional Christian belief-bubble, but it’s not there. On the other hand, there are numerous scriptures that talk about the total cessation of life when a person dies and how the righteous dead will be resurrected at the second coming of Yeshua.
When Y’shua descended before He Assented and He brought up many with him, so what happen to them? Though I knew I did not receive my Glorified Body till the End at the Last Trump, I thought my spirit was with Y’shua before that! Out of body , present with The Lord?
I know it says we sleep in some places but in others not so!
So, we all sleep till He Comes? But what of those who came up out of the grave with Y’shua and I will have to find the Scriptures
They are never mentioned again so I assume that they lived on the earth for a time again. Might I suggest an excellent resource…………..IMMortal by Lex B Meyer? Excellent and very informative and filled with Scripture backup!!
They lived awhile and died and are awaiting the second resurrection. Though the Gospel account doesn’t specifically say this, this would be consistent with what the rest of the Scriptures teach on the subject.